As per Stephan Hawking right after big bang there was formation of cloud of hydrogen gas which led to construction of star which further led to construction of galaxies when stars came closer due to gravitational force, & I would like to raise a point right after big bang the cloud present at that time where of very huge scale which due to gravitational pull lead to become stars but since that star at this time would be much bigger than the stars we have now, making them highly unstable and led to an early end of star as stars which are more than 100 times bigger than sun are more unstable than smaller as sun which lead to formation of black holes right at the centre universe since at the centre the chance of having huge Hydrogen cloud is much more than at outer edges the outer edges lead to formation of galaxies but near the centre huge stars were formed which lead to formation of extra massive black hole which were so near to each other ended up absorbing each other and becoming one extra super massive black hole all the galaxies on out edges because of gravitational pull of black hole started getting attracted towards to same means towards the centre as we know black holes attracts objects near to it with much more force than the object at farther which make it look like the far object is actually going further away from us making it look like red shift and only very small portion and few potion only making it look like blue shift but since even the stars which are nearer to black hole will also show red shift as even they are moving away from us at much fast speed as compare to us towards to centre of universe
The age of Universe
Once one everything will go back to centre of Universe or all the stars will be absorbed by black hole it will again become unstable giving birth to new universe which may be different from what we have now.
I give Radhasoami Faith view of Creation Theory. In Sar Bachan (Poetry) composed by His Holiness Soamiji Maharaj the August Founder of Radhasoami Faith the details of creation and dissolution has been described very scientifically. It is written in this Holy Book: Only He Himself (Supreme Father)and none else was there. There issued forth a great current of spirituality, love and grace (In scientific terminology we may call this current as gravitational wave). This is called His Mauj (Divine Ordainment). This was the first manifestation of Supreme Being. This Divine Ordainment brought into being three regions, viz., Agam, Alakh, and Satnam of eternal bliss. Then a current emerged with a powerful sound. (first big bang) It brought forth the creation of seven Surats or currents of various shades and colours (in scientific terminology we may call it electromagnetic waves). Here the true Jaman or coagulant was given (in scientific terminology this coagulant may be called as weak nuclear force and strong nuclear force). Surats, among themselves, brought the creation into being.
ReplyDeleteThese currents descended down further and brought the whole universe/multi verse into being i.e. black holes, galaxies etc. were born.
Hi Anirudh,
ReplyDeleteI am not talking about religion here mate, as If I was I probably use Hindu mythology where I can tell shiv shakti is actually creators of self as universe as per hindu mythology they once created the all and shiv represent mass and shakti represent the energy of this universe. and everything in it is just part of them. where vishnu represents life and brahma represents structure of this universe and similarly as the elements are named as gods such as vayu, inder they all are are characteristics of universe each representing forces which are beyond human control
But In the upper topic I am talking about science with no religion attachment or belief I am discussing about never ending universe and the process how it is formed and deformed again.
Thank you Mr. Vivek
ReplyDeleteIn fact, I am working for the synthesis of religion and science. I wrote a paper Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator and presented it in the 1st International Conference on Revival of Traditional Yoga in Lonavla in 2006 and then wrote a paper on In Scientific Terminology Source of Gravitational Wave is God and presented it at the 2nd World Congress on Vedic Sciences held in BHU, Varanasi in 2007. I would let you know details later if you so desire. Thanks for your excellent post and comments.
Would love to see the same, If possible kindly forward me same on viveksheelg@gmail.com and highly appreciate your comments as well.
ReplyDeleteThe most data I have is based on hypothesis as I do not belong to same field so no real scientific proof for same but would like to gain more info on same as this hypothesis is completely based on all the study material of Universe I been through till now.
Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator, this paper I presented at the 1st Int. Conf. on Revival of Traditional Yoga, held at The Lonavla Yoga Institute (India), Lonavla, Pune in 2006. The Abstract of this paper is given below:
ReplyDeleteThe Universe includes everything that exists. In the Universe there are billions and billions of stars. These stars are distributed in the space in huge clusters. They are held together by gravitation and are known as galaxies. Sun is also a star. Various members of the solar system are bound to it by gravitation force. Gravitation force is the ultimate cause of birth and death of galaxy, star and planets etc. Gravitation can be considered as the cause of various forms of animate and inanimate existence. Human form is superior to all other forms. Withdrawal of gravitational wave from some plane of action is called the death of that form. It can be assumed that gravitation force is ultimate creator. Source of it is 'God'. Gravitational Field is the supreme soul (consciousness) and its innumerable points of action may be called as individual soul (consciousness). It acts through body and mind. Body is physical entity. Mind can be defined as the function of autonomic nervous system. Electromagnetic waves are its agents through which it works. This can be realized through the practice of meditation and yoga under qualified meditation instruction. This can remove misunderstanding between science and religion and amongst various religions. This is the gist of all religious teachings - past, present and future.
Religion is part of universe and Human is not the ultimate in this universe there is so much we don't know. Religion was developed to bring people together and each and every religion was developed for same purpose to bring and controls and to separate what is good and what is bad, and Religion with universe is just understanding of universe by founding fathers of religion some named all that is beyond human control but effect human life as gods some just believe god is out there but watch all over us and judge us by our actions.
ReplyDeleteGravitational is one of biggest element in universe as it dominates from its origin to its death which will lead to formation of new universe.
Universe is one thing that is ultimate as par we know may be there are more than just one universe the concept of parallel universe is not something we can completely deny it can be true. In this universe nothing beyond universe is supreme. As black holes earlier supposed to be bad part now we studied the and realized they are one most important part of universe which keep it together which lead to formation of all the elements that we use now. There is so much we don't know and why we have urge of feeling we are the ultimate in this universe who knows what this universe holds.
ReplyDeleteThank you Vivek. You have very deep insight. Your description of black holes is excellent. You have also described Gravitation very nicely. In fact, all other forces of the universe are the modification of gravitation force. Black holes are the infinitely dense ball of gravitational force.
ReplyDeleteReligion and Yoga have almost identical meaning. Religion means re+ ligare i.e. union again and Yoga means yoking of power of body, mind and soul.
Thanks Anirudh, Black hole has always been my favorite subjects so If I can I always like to read about it and I may not have much knowledge in yoga and religion so its nice to your comments no same. TO me religion is force to collect and control people and yoga is way to exercise your concentration and how do we say increase your mental capabilities as well as physical ones.
ReplyDeleteThank you Vivek. I am of the view that the speed of gravitational force is many times more than the speed of light on black holes. That's why the escape velocity on black holes is greater than the speed of light. This may be the only reason that the light can not escape black holes.
ReplyDeleteYup that has been proved fact, which is why it has been referred as black hole as well as black hole can not only absorb it depends on the size of black hole basically black holes are classified in 3 categories
ReplyDeleteblack holes
massive black holes
super massive black holes
super massive are said to be at center of galaxies such as milky way which is also reason for its spiral shape and motion of it. and have capabilities to absorb the whole galaxy thus eventually black hole at center of milky way will absorb the milky way galaxy leave just black hole in the end which will further lead to end of the universe as we know it in the end there will only black holes left which will slowly and slowly merge into one black hole making it completely unstable and lading into new universe.
Have you never thought that Lord Krishna had descended from a Super massive black hole to the the planet Earth?
ReplyDeleteno.... I believe Hindu mythology is based on idolism, Most of Hindu gods or even such as Lord Krishna are one of the idols were created by founding fathers of religion to guide us how to live our life, Take example of Lord Ram - : He is perfect human being who is perfect son, perfect King and is a complete example of perfection similarly Lord Krishna teach us how to live in this world while balancing your Karma as well as Dharma(Religion) and you gotta tweaks some principle of life in order to survive. All the examples somehow lead to basic principle of Hinduism which means respect for life in each and every form thus saying Bhagwan is sarvyapi meaning God is everywhere and in everybody. I am quite strong believer of principles of Hinduism as I stated above Lord Shivshakti is like universe Where Shakti is energy and Shiv is mass, Lord Vishnu refers to life and Lord Brahma tends to structure or part of this universe such as US.
ReplyDelete